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Sunday, October 9, 2011

Oh look a Rifle!

So I get handed this thing (as usual click to enlarge):




























I miked the muzzle with a .232" diameter. It appears to be magazine fed.

If anyone can offer any help or needs better pics to help let me know! I have no idea here. I don't even know where to start to find out anything about this one! I'm in WAY over my head!

14 comments:

  1. Try these to start:

    http://www.oldrifles.com/Italian.htm
    and

    http://www.militaryrifles.com/Italy/ItalVet.htm

    See Ya,
    YeOldFurt

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  2. It's an East Prussian Phased Plasma Rifle. The curved trigger guard is indicative of the earlier, C Model (the later models, X, * and 3 all had unguarded triggers for space gloves). The proof marks are from the Royal House of Skyneteth Armorery. It's internally fused with 4 bolts in the magazine and one in the fusing chamber. From the bore size I'd say it's probably in the 40 watt range.
    Hope this helps Keads.

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  3. Thanks YeOldFurt!

    Six- Stop that! Do you know HOW many keyboards have been lost here due to stuff like this? Think of the keyboards man!

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  4. I think I found it for you, Keads! It's Italian. I was scrolling through rifles and trying to stay away from countries that were either well known (English and their Enfields) or were well known to use or copy popular designs. I think this might be the one:

    http://oldrifles.com/Italian.htm

    It looks like a modified Italian Vetterli 1870 originally in 10.35 x 47. Except from your measurements, I'm thinking it's closer to the 6.5 mm later calibration. That is a cool rifle. I hope you can dig up some history on it.

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  5. 45er-Thanks! I will go look!

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  6. Definitely a vetterli - got one myself.
    Found this stuff in my hunt to figure out if it will shoot or not. And what, precisely.
    http://collectorguns35625.yuku.com/topic/745/t/Vetterli-Centerfire-Conversion-simplified.html
    http://www.swissrifles.com/vetterli/
    Yes, the last even has ammo manuf tips.

    Good luck on it!! Lots of places to find indicia for ID, year, etc...

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  7. 45er beat me to it. It's a Vetterli, sleeved down to the "newer" cartridge. Post your questions and pics on Gunboards' Italian rifle forum and several experts will soon tell you everything from how to get ammo for it to which armorers originally assembled it on which day. Go here:

    http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?10-Italian-Firearms-Forum

    Enjoy it--it looks like a good one.

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  8. She's worn, but still a beauty! I can't wait to show Dave later and see what he thinks.

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  9. Sweet find! First one of those I've ever seen.

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  10. LauraB- thanks!

    ML- Just registered there. Been a long week so far!

    Brooke- Thanks!

    DB- Thanks!

    I will let everyone know what I find out!

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  11. Never seen one, but I 'knew' it was Italian... Gonna be interesting :-)

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  12. NFO- I hope to find a mag, ammo, and get her into shape to fire. Glad you had a good time "out there".

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  13. It's a Vetterli-Vitali.

    DO NOT FIRE IT WITH 6.5 CARCANO AMMUNITION!!!!!!
    More coming in email.

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  14. Tam- Ok! Awaiting transmission!

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