Dann, from the Interwebs as opposed to the shop manuals here: "Now a 351 Windsor is really a slightly enlarged 289/302, as it's name implies it comes from Fords "Windsor" engine family (a.k.a. the 90-degree V engine family). The thin-wall cast SMALL BLOCK accepts regular sized spark plugs, uses a timing chain in the block, routes water through the intake manifold, features thin main-bearing caps, a very good oiling system, and uses the same heads for 2V & 4V versions. The heads are are small, utilizing in-line valves with relatively small ports. The valves are 1.78" intake and 1.54" exhaust, i.e. the same size as a 289/302. The valve covers are straight (front to rear), attached by 5 bolts, and when removed you can see 351 cast in the lifter valley. The small side-by side (in-line) valves are the dead give-away.
The 351 Cleveland, on the other hand, belongs to Ford's 335 engine family. This thin-wall cast BIG SMALL BLOCK uses the smaller 14mm spark plugs, has a separate front cover (bolted to the block) housing the timing chain and routing water - so that water does not go through the intake manifold, features beefy main caps (wide enough to drill for 4-bolt mains), a poor oiling system, and uses different heads for 2V & 4V versions. The heads make all the difference and these fire breathing babies make this motor the legend it is. On the 4V, the valves are HUGE, measuring 2.19" intake and 1.7n" exhaust (don't remember exactly). Valves this large are only possible via a canted valve arrangement, forming what Ford refers to as a "poly-angle" combustion chamber. The valve covers are not straight - the front is flat and parallel to the ground, but a curve twists the rear parallel to the head. They are attached by 8-bolts and when removed, there is a 4 cast into the corner of the 4V and a 2 cast into the corner of the 2V (at least in 1970). The canted valves are the dead giveaway."
Schaweet!! That is a nice ride my brother. I'm inspired. I finally got the Vette finished (or as finished as these things can ever be) and back on the road. In the next couple of days I'll take a similiar video and post it. Not quite as cool as the Stang but... Hey, we'll be trend setters!
Six, thanks! They are never finished. At least it is back on the road! The people that trailer the cars to the shows and dust them off really piss me off. If you cannot drive it what purpose does it serve. This is a 25 year plus restoration. I can see everything that still needs to be done.
THAT takes me back to high school. COOL!
ReplyDeleteThis is what I drove in High School! It has been through some *modifications* however.
DeleteShiny!
ReplyDeleteWell,not as shiny as she should be but thanks!
DeleteSo what's under the hood? 351...
ReplyDeleteDann in Ohio
Ding, ding, ding! 351-C!
DeleteThere were two 351's if I recall... the 351C (Cleveland) and the 351W (Windsor)... but I'm not sure of the specific differences...
DeleteDann in Ohio
Dann, from the Interwebs as opposed to the shop manuals here: "Now a 351 Windsor is really a slightly enlarged 289/302, as it's name implies it comes from Fords "Windsor" engine family (a.k.a. the 90-degree V engine family). The thin-wall cast SMALL BLOCK accepts regular sized spark plugs, uses a timing chain in the block, routes water through the intake manifold, features thin main-bearing caps, a very good oiling system, and uses the same heads for 2V & 4V versions. The heads are are small, utilizing in-line valves with relatively small ports. The valves are 1.78" intake and 1.54" exhaust, i.e. the same size as a 289/302. The valve covers are straight (front to rear), attached by 5 bolts, and when removed you can see 351 cast in the lifter valley. The small side-by side (in-line) valves are the dead give-away.
DeleteThe 351 Cleveland, on the other hand, belongs to Ford's 335 engine family. This thin-wall cast BIG SMALL BLOCK uses the smaller 14mm spark plugs, has a separate front cover (bolted to the block) housing the timing chain and routing water - so that water does not go through the intake manifold, features beefy main caps (wide enough to drill for 4-bolt mains), a poor oiling system, and uses different heads for 2V & 4V versions. The heads make all the difference and these fire breathing babies make this motor the legend it is. On the 4V, the valves are HUGE, measuring 2.19" intake and 1.7n" exhaust (don't remember exactly). Valves this large are only possible via a canted valve arrangement, forming what Ford refers to as a "poly-angle" combustion chamber. The valve covers are not straight - the front is flat and parallel to the ground, but a curve twists the rear parallel to the head. They are attached by 8-bolts and when removed, there is a 4 cast into the corner of the 4V and a 2 cast into the corner of the 2V (at least in 1970). The canted valves are the dead giveaway."
It is the original rebuilt some time ago.
Sounds good. What motor? I had a Hi-Po 289 in '65.
ReplyDeleteSee above, 351-C. Sounds great for 250K on it! Thanks Brock!
DeleteSchaweet!! That is a nice ride my brother. I'm inspired. I finally got the Vette finished (or as finished as these things can ever be) and back on the road. In the next couple of days I'll take a similiar video and post it. Not quite as cool as the Stang but...
ReplyDeleteHey, we'll be trend setters!
Six, thanks! They are never finished. At least it is back on the road! The people that trailer the cars to the shows and dust them off really piss me off. If you cannot drive it what purpose does it serve. This is a 25 year plus restoration. I can see everything that still needs to be done.
DeleteAgain my heartfelt condolences bro.
Thank you my friend.
DeleteThe post is up!