We get that "corner cutting" here a lot. WV only requires a three-hour class, and you don't even have to shoot your own handgun, so some crummy "instructors" are giving their students .22 pistols, having them shoot a few targets, and then basically wasting time. One local flim-flam course giver actually tells his students how to disarm armed assailants and wastes a good chunk of that three hours playing Rambo with a dummy gun basically just to show them what a bad-ass that he is. But heck--at least he's not teaching them about the laws related to self-defense or what to do after a shooting. You get what you pay for and a lot of people around here didn't get jack for knowledge or skills but they have permits.
ML, I know it. I do my job over and above what the State requires. I try to instill to students that this class is not enough. You are fooling yourself if you think so. I only have 8 hours with you. 4 for the laws, 4 for actually running the Handgun. It pisses me off that some, given this great responsiblity to instruct, short the student in a subject that has great import. I'm a great teacher, over a decade in the classroom. It pisses me off. It degrades all of us that do care and I don't do it for the cash. In fact, the cash is not that great after Instructor Insurance, State renewal, range fees, etc.
Sad. I care. Many do not when telling people what do do in a life changing event.
Yeah, when I took my FLA non resident ccl class here in Indiana, it was a complete joke. I spent $150 and got my license, but the "class" was a waste of time and the "test" was a joke as well.
My .mil ID would have gotten me my CCW here, but I actually took a course to get the law part. It was supposedly 8 hours, but we were there almost 12 before all the questions got answered.
I don't even remember our requirements. I just know I took a day long course and that the instructors are now working for Barrett in TN. I had an advantage in that I started with ML and already knew a bunch of basics.
I spent thirteen years in law enforcement, and later took a two-day civilian class that taught me things I never learned in the academy or follow-up training. A good instructor is priceless.
We get that "corner cutting" here a lot. WV only requires a three-hour class, and you don't even have to shoot your own handgun, so some crummy "instructors" are giving their students .22 pistols, having them shoot a few targets, and then basically wasting time. One local flim-flam course giver actually tells his students how to disarm armed assailants and wastes a good chunk of that three hours playing Rambo with a dummy gun basically just to show them what a bad-ass that he is. But heck--at least he's not teaching them about the laws related to self-defense or what to do after a shooting. You get what you pay for and a lot of people around here didn't get jack for knowledge or skills but they have permits.
ReplyDeleteML, I know it. I do my job over and above what the State requires. I try to instill to students that this class is not enough. You are fooling yourself if you think so. I only have 8 hours with you. 4 for the laws, 4 for actually running the Handgun.
DeleteIt pisses me off that some, given this great responsiblity to instruct, short the student in a subject that has great import.
I'm a great teacher, over a decade in the classroom. It pisses me off. It degrades all of us that do care and I don't do it for the cash. In fact, the cash is not that great after Instructor Insurance, State renewal, range fees, etc.
Sad. I care. Many do not when telling people what do do in a life changing event.
Yeah, when I took my FLA non resident ccl class here in Indiana, it was a complete joke. I spent $150 and got my license, but the "class" was a waste of time and the "test" was a joke as well.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm legal!
I am of two minds of State required classes. I really need to post in depth about that soon.
ReplyDeleteI'd be interested in reading that, dude. :)
DeleteMy .mil ID would have gotten me my CCW here, but I actually took a course to get the law part. It was supposedly 8 hours, but we were there almost 12 before all the questions got answered.
ReplyDeleteI don't even remember our requirements. I just know I took a day long course and that the instructors are now working for Barrett in TN. I had an advantage in that I started with ML and already knew a bunch of basics.
ReplyDeleteI spent thirteen years in law enforcement, and later took a two-day civilian class that taught me things I never learned in the academy or follow-up training. A good instructor is priceless.
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